Posted by Linda Juenger on 6/29/11 11:58am
Msg #388127

IL House Bill 3331

I called Rep Jackson and expressed my concerns about this. Since I can no longer accept the Military ID because it does not contain a signature, the DL and Passport are all I can accept. By extending this from 90 - 120 days only delays them having a proper ID to use for notarizing for them (of course if it pertains to them). He was very interested and did not realize this and did not know the Notary Law (didn't expect him too). MO on this is that they should have 30 days and no more. WE, the common people don't have 30 days much less 90 and now 120. I understand that the military personnel have a lot on their plate and love and appreciate what they do for us, but why should they be allowed to drive on an expired license?? I can't and neither should they? JMO

SPRINGFIELD, IL – State Rep. Eddie Lee Jackson, Sr.’s (D-East St. Louis) legislation to reduce bureaucratic burdens on local soldiers by giving them greater flexibility in renewing expired driver’s licenses passed the General Assembly and has been sent to the governor for his consideration.

“When soldiers on active duty and their families return to civilian life, they usually face a backlog of paperwork and red tape that adds to their already stressful lives,” Jackson said. “Eliminating these unnecessary headaches helps improve the lives of military families.”

House Bill 3331, introduced by Jackson, increases the number of days that overseas military personnel and family members who live with them have to renew their driver’s licenses upon returning to Illinois, if the licenses expired during the soldier’s deployment. Jackson’s measure would increase the current 90-day grace period for renewal to 120 days.

“We have thousands of military personnel and families who live throughout the area because of Scott Air Force Base, and I am proud that we live in a region that is supportive of those who sacrifice so much to make our country a safer place,” Jackson said. “With so many local families serving, it’s the right thing to do to make life easier for them whenever we can.”

Reply by MW/VA on 6/29/11 12:06pm
Msg #388128

I don't know how the IL Notary Law is written, but not accepting Military ID's is kind of ridiculous. They are picture ID's, whether they contain a signature or not.
I am in a heavily military-populated area. They will often pull out their Military ID first, but that's what is the main ID for them in their lives. I always ask for the D/L, but do accept the Military ID as the 2nd ID.

Reply by jnew on 6/29/11 12:17pm
Msg #388134

I would not accept an ID that does not have a signature on it as a primary id. I believe a primary ID should contain both a matching photograph and signature. The military id would be used as a secondary id to establish identity only if it did not contain a signature.

Reply by MW/VA on 6/29/11 12:22pm
Msg #388135

BTW, VA notary law doesn't have any "signature matching"

requirements, TG. It's still about the notary being satisfied as to the identity of the person signing.

Reply by LisaWI on 6/29/11 1:03pm
Msg #388143

Re: WI Requires a Signature

and a picture on the ID per our brochure.

Our directive:
"Do you have some forms of identification showing your name and address,
and with pictures and signatures, that I could use to verify your identity?"

Reply by trnsa_IL on 6/29/11 8:57pm
Msg #388173

IL Notary Handbook, Article IV, 6-102 (d) reads as follows:

(d) A notary public has satisfactory evidence that a person is the person whose
true signature is on a document if that person:
(1) is personally known to the notary;
(2) is identified upon the oath or affirmation of a credible witness personally
known to the notary; or
(3) is identified on the basis of identification documents. Until July 1, 2013,
identification documents are documents that are valid at the time of the
notarial act, issued by a state or federal government agency, and bearing
the photographic image of the individualʼs face and signature of the individual

According to the IL SOS, an IL notary cannot accept a military ID if it does not contain a signature. This is a problem for those whose DL has expired, and they are relying on their MID for ID purposes. I"m sure in many cases it would be just fine, but not notarial acts.

Reply by Cari on 6/29/11 4:48pm
Msg #388156

good for you sister! I'm surprised you got to him. But I'm glad you raised that issue. Sure wish I would've read this earlier, I would've called him to also complain about our new Identity Law, and how this new law is burdoning (sp?) our seniors, especially the ones that are not mobile!

me thinks I'll call him in the morning....

Reply by James Powell on 6/30/11 7:20am
Msg #388189

I would question whether this is a notarial issue at all. While the ID is technically 'expired', the grace period of 90-120 days means that it still 'valid' in the eyes of the authorities. If the person would not be givena ticket for an expired license, then why would it not be allowed as a valid identification for notary purposes? Especially when backed by secondary identification. Seems like a splitting of hairs that should be handled by changing the notary rules, if not the law itself.

Reply by Bob_Chicago on 6/30/11 9:31am
Msg #388193

"While the ID is technically 'expired', the grace period of 90-120 days means that it still 'valid' in the eyes of the authorities"
I Concur
Further the DL laws of most, if not all, states provide that the DLs of active duty military personnel do not expire .
Therefore the DL of active duty military are "valid" even if "expired " on the face of the DL.
IMO an "expired " DL , together with a valid , active duty military ID would constitute "valid " ID for an Illinios notarization.