Posted by JimAZ on 11/11/13 4:56pm
Msg #492284

California NNA and SPW cancer

Talked to one of my Florida SS's today and was told my Lexis_Nexis (expires 1-2-2014) was no longer valid because it was over a year old. I thought, here we go again so I responded " OK, I will get a Notary Rotary back ground check" Their response was "Great, send it to us but we will continue to do business pending receipt". How business should be.

It appears to me the California cancer (NNA and SPW) is not spreading like they think or would like. Please all, don't over-react. Every dollar you send to NNA is a dollar in their Lobbyist pockets, not yours.

Reply by Shawn Choyce on 11/11/13 5:09pm
Msg #492286

The NNA is using scare tactics. I have yet to see in writing where the banks say they are mandating this. I have seen nothing from Secretary of State for California which issued my notary commission saying this is a requirement.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 5:16pm
Msg #492288

Thank You! Exactly my point.

Reply by Linda_H/FL on 11/11/13 5:27pm
Msg #492291

" I have seen nothing from Secretary of State for California which issued my notary commission saying this is a requirement."

And you won't - because it's addressing something that the SOS has nothing to do with - a "signing agent" -

The SOS gets involved with notaries - has nothing to do with the NNA agenda.

Reply by Shawn Choyce on 11/11/13 5:21pm
Msg #492289

This is a monopoly for the NNA and Sterling. I am going to consult an attorney as I feel pressured by the NNA & SPW that if we don't comply it will affect my ability to make a living. I am an independent contractor and these mandates don't allow me to make my own business decision but instead are dictating how I run and do business.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 5:26pm
Msg #492290

Go for it!!! You will have thousands here that will be willing to depose.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 5:29pm
Msg #492293

wrong word,,,, Many NSA's

Reply by MW/VA on 11/11/13 6:30pm
Msg #492303

Go for it. I posted earlier that I think someone needs to

start a class-action suit. Some attorney would have a field day with this one, and could probably make a lot of money with it.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 11/11/13 5:44pm
Msg #492296

This has nothing to do with California...

It's the result of a private company working with other private companies who think they are making NATIONAL standards to fulfill FEDERAL law. Just because one is headquartered in California means zip. They have zero regulatory control, despite what they try to make people think.

Besides, under CA labor law, these so-called "standards" are totally bogus. They cannot exercise that kind of control and still call us independent contractors.

Trust me... CA notaries dislike the NNA/SPW right now just as much as notaries elsewhere.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 6:01pm
Msg #492297

Re: This has nothing to do with California...

Unfortunately the NNA and it's stepchild SPW are based in California.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 6:05pm
Msg #492298

Re: This has nothing to do with California...

Whoops, I didn't mean stepchild,,,I meant illegitimate child

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 11/11/13 6:14pm
Msg #492299

Yes, but what does that have to do with California?

So, they're headquartered here...big whoop. They have a nationwide audience.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 6:22pm
Msg #492301

Re: Yes, but what does that have to do with California?

I've only heard from marginal California signing services regarding this. The rest of my customers nationwide could care less about NNA and something called SPW. They just want me to do my job. That's the point of my post, if you would bother to read it. FLORIDA DOESN'T CARE!!!

Reply by MW/VA on 11/11/13 6:28pm
Msg #492302

I understand, Marian. It's taken a lot of people a long

time to see through their agenda. While I can't say it's CA's fault, it seems that most of the problem cos. I've ever dealt with came from there. CA was also where so much of the bad mortgage stuff came from. I'm sure it's just coincidental, but it is a fact.

Reply by Bear900/CA on 11/11/13 8:01pm
Msg #492311

I agree, so let's just wait til they fall off in the ocean! n/m

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 8:44pm
Msg #492320

Re: I agree, so let

"Late Great State of California" Good book, great history book of California.

Reply by Notarysigner on 11/12/13 8:09am
Msg #492355

It would impact the Az economy dearly since

CA PAYS AZ to keep prisoners for the state.

Reply by JanetK_CA on 11/11/13 8:30pm
Msg #492315

My thought exactly!!

Also, it just happens that roughly 20% of the whole nation happens to be located here. So it stands to reason that lots of other business and activity of all kinds will be located here, as well. Conflating the NNA and SPW with the entire state where they just happen to be located is like saying that people with brown eyes commit more crimes. It's an absolutely meaningless association.

Reply by Marian_in_CA on 11/11/13 9:27pm
Msg #492327

Not only that...but CA has the LOWEST

number of notaries per capita in the entire country. So associating a private company to a state with the lowest number of notaries per capita doesn't make much sense.

Blame CA for a lot of things... (a lot!) but not this.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 8:31pm
Msg #492316

Re: This has nothing to do with California...

Sorry, I have nothing against California. It's a wonderful state and I lived there for 35 years. Again, sorry if I attached NNA and SPW with California. It is a nationwide cancer.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 8:36pm
Msg #492317

Re: This has nothing to do with California...

that began in California

Reply by Bear900/CA on 11/11/13 8:42pm
Msg #492319

You're absolutely right

but I think we need to credit FL with the Zombie apocalypse.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 8:54pm
Msg #492321

Re: You

I gave you a history book of California. Do you have a book of Florida Zombies that is good reading?

Reply by Bear900/CA on 11/11/13 9:01pm
Msg #492322

As a matter of fact I do

it comes with an extra hand for flipping pages, borrowed from FL of course.

Reply by JimAZ on 11/11/13 9:11pm
Msg #492324

Re: As a matter of fact I do

Already read it. Zombie books are all the same. Zombies take over town, town finds solution, zombies gone. LOL

Reply by Bear900/CA on 11/11/13 9:17pm
Msg #492325

Yeah...the strange thing is

hunting zombies in FL is a class 2 misdemeanor “likely to provoke physical retaliation”.

Man, dinner's calling. Been fun!

Reply by Sylvia_FL on 11/11/13 9:19pm
Msg #492326

Re: You

Hmmmph!!!!! <g>

Reply by jba/fl on 11/12/13 7:53am
Msg #492350

Excuse me? n/m