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Msg #649732

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Forum
By  David Everett on 11/30/24 12:14pm

Why do notary's on here reply to comments with there credentials?? It's not what this is meant for.

Msg #649730

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GNW assignment today at a Skilled Nursing Home
By  Cheryl Elliott on 11/29/24 10:43pm

I received a request to meet with the oldest of three sons to sign a durable POA. His mother whom he had not seen in over five years drove down from the Bay area and we met in the lobby before proceeding to her room. Mom is 94 and had difficulty getting around. One of her two I sons who live in her home called the EMTs to take her to the hospital. When the EMTs saw the squaller and filth she was living in, they called the Sheriff. The one son who was present was arrested, and later booked for elder (and likely financial abude abuse). The eldest son has done quite well for himself in the high tech biz. The two younger sons both have blemished backgrounds and ongoing investigations for elder abuse and embezzlement of other citizens who were in their care.

We completed the POA and mom is now safe and being nurtured back to health. The two sons can only visit her in the company of an ombudsman She wasn't eating very well and not being kept clean. Such a darling lady. She has lived in her home for over 45 years. She was an educator and a musician. Her home has a reverse mortgage. Her sons have spent all her money and think they are entitled to her home, but of course they have no way to purchase the property now. At Mom's passing the lender can sell her home. One of the sons recorded a grant deed adding him to the title. The RM lender made him and title take him off title, as he is not a spouse.

This is the variety of work I come across in this business. I suspect situations like this will become a lot more common in properties with a lot of equity. OR, if the lender decides to schedule an inspection of the property, things may move along a lot faster, especially given the condition of the property.

I am only a witness that Mom knows what she is signing and and not being coerced to sign. Her oldest son can now act in her best interest.

Msg #649724

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Need assistance/guidance/referral
By HeatherR/CA on 11/27/24 10:37pm

short of it: Client became a friend. Their 80ish year old brother has a younger family friend (50) who has duped him out of money, 400k plus, and re-Deeded the brother's house to himself even though it was being willed to him at time of brother's death. He can put him out of his own house.

Anyone in Escondido/PB have an attorney friend who can give some direction.

Real estate fraud and elder abuse. mental/emotional/Not physical

Msg #649718

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Medallion Notary
By  Yoli/CA on 11/25/24 12:35pm

Medallion Notary is mentioned in another post as being associated with a Protest. I believe that is incorrect. A Medallion Signature Guarantee is:

"It confirms your identity, signature and legal authority to transfer securities and investments"

Source: http://www.bankofamerica.com/signature-services/medallion-signature-guarantee/

Not to be confused with a Protest (Presentment is a step in the Protest):

http://notarytrainingschool.com/navigating-notary-protests-best-practices-for-certified-signing-agents/



Msg #649712

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Montana
By  David Everett on 11/24/24 5:39pm

So I have been a notary in Montana for 12 + years. I had a person ask me to do a Notary Presentment? I have never done this, so I told them I don't do them. I don't even know if they are legal in Montana, I will ask the state tomorrow.
I'm curious if anyone else has done them

Msg #649697

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The Closing Group
By  Cheryl Elliott on 11/21/24 3:08pm

So sweet of them to think of me.

A 120 page HELOC for $40 50 smiles away. I was busy.


Msg #649691

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Need regular signings
By Victoria McCoy on 11/21/24 7:50am

Does anyone know of a signing agency that can provide regular (1-2 signings) per day? I am in GA and need more options. Please do not suggest the low paying agencies, I know they are more frequent.

Msg #649680

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Question for all my lovely peers re: public request for.....
By Mung/CA on 11/20/24 5:52pm

a photostatic copy of a journal line item. I was recently served with a written notice of such. In the over 13,000 signings this is the first time it has happened to me. The question I have is, for those with personal experience with such, am I supposed to black out id info? Looked at the journal but it doesn't mention anything about that. I would think so since its personal, identifying info. Thanks in advance

Msg #649679

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NotaryPay LLC and Signingorder.com - NO PAY just threats
By Pamela/CA on 11/20/24 4:22pm

Hi, well its been a ride, I must say. We did a July 23, 2024 Signing for a new client, Standard Notary Service based in Florida for their client, a firm of real estate attorneys. It was a little $100 job. By Sep 6th we finally get a Deluxe check with job info but instead of the my name the check was made out to a company called Mobile Notary Zone rendering it uncashable! Called Standard owner Dalton Jewett who said that was my problem not his because he paid my $100 fee to his new accounting firm, NotaryPay LLC who works with a Notary Database company called signingorder.com. From there it was downhill. Very nasty chap name of Anthony at signingorder.com said to correct the name on the check I would have to go in and change what I put into MY PROFILE!!! To change it, I would have to join signingorder.com. Well that isn't ever going to happen. So Anthony claims he can 'blacklist' me. Meanwhile, an email from a Yolanda Adams(!!) in Rocklin, CA says she passing on to me a two page letter from Nikki Schwartz-Davis @ NOTARYPAY LLC!! The thing was filled with threats against me and my company. I knew it was more pressure to stop calling and writing. I brushed off Yolanda. Had no idea any NotRot members were involved in this.
After Anthony refuse to dismantle my profile they had mocked up from my real profile at NNA Signingagent.com, I filed a complaint with NNA VP Chris Sturdivant. He apologized to me and said he knows the owners and was just trying to help them, he didn't know they withheld my fee. Meanwhile, we left on our Princess Cruise for 16 days from SF Sept 28 to Oct 14th. Upon return I've spoken to Florida Corporation Agency and they have supplied me with owners names, addresses, NotaryPay LLC and Title Processing Center and signingorder.com -Carol West and Kristopher Kellenger. I will give NotaryPay one last chance to send that $100 check. As for other Notaries injecting themselves into this to assist their Clients, signingorder and notarypay I consider that a low blow against a fellow NSA.

Msg #649678

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Have any of you joined the Better Business Bureau?
By Mills Mobile Notary Service on 11/20/24 4:13pm

Have any of your joined the Better Business Bureau? I just got offered to join them and use the BBB icon as part of my advertising and on my website. It will cost $68 / Month.

Just wondering if it would be worth in and if others notaries have found being a BBB member worth it.

Thank you for you input.

Msg #649670

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ANYONE else having this problem
By aanotary on 11/20/24 11:00am

Signature closers is good about payment every 2 weeks. I get a notifaction like clockwork around the 2nd or 3rd and the 16-17th of the month that payment is on the way for whatever amount. This month - nothing starting to get worried.

Msg #649667

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I still cannot get to the free 3 hour course to renew n/m
By  canotaryhere on 11/19/24 7:42pm



Msg #649664

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California provides a way to paper out electronic deeds
By VT_Syrup on 11/19/24 5:21pm

I saw a mention on the XYZ site that CA has passed Assembly Bill 2004, available at

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2004

Rather than letting a notary certify that a tangible copy is a true copy of an electronic record, as many other states (including mine) have done, they wanted to avoid expanding notaries' certified copy authority, so they authorized a variation of a certified copy by document custodian. They created a specific affidavit for the "disinterested custodian" who made, or supervised the making, of the copy:

"Certification of a Printed Copy of an Electronic Record

"I hereby certify that the attached instrument entitled document title, if applicable, dated document date, and containing page count pages is an accurate reproduction of an electronic record printed by me or under my supervision. At the time of printing, I had access to the electronic record displaying intact tamper-evident security procedures. No security procedures used on the electronic record indicated any changes or errors in an electronic signature or other information in the electronic record after the completion of the electronic record’s creation, execution, or notarization.

"I am not a grantee, beneficiary, or otherwise a person who directly benefits from the attached instrument or electronic record.

"I certify under PENALTY OF PERJURY under the laws of the State of California that the foregoing paragraphs are true and correct.

"Dated: ______

"Name: ______

"Signature: ______"

An improvement over similar laws in other states is the disinterested custodian must insure that the record has one or more electronic, tamper-evident signatures. They must also insure that according to the built-in security procedures, the document has not been altered since the tamper-evident signature(s) were applied.

What all of these laws fail to address is metadata. The kind of electronic documents that would be used for deeds and other land records contain metadata that is not printed when you click the "print" button". How can the document custodian swear it is an "accurate reproduction" when the metadata is omitted from the paper copy?

Msg #649663

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Acredited Notary Services
By Bravo on 11/19/24 5:19pm

Anyone heard of this signing agency?

Msg #649662

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Question for you Ron specialist
By  Expeditor on 11/19/24 3:34pm

Since Ron is a 24/7 gig, how often does your phone ring? How long does the call last and who pays you?

Msg #649661

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Shasta Signings
By Bravo on 11/19/24 2:48pm

I ought to explain that I inquired here in July about them and just wanted to recheck because I keep getting requests from them.

Msg #649660

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Shasta Signings
By Bravo on 11/19/24 2:46pm

Anyone worked for them?

Msg #649659

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Shasta n/m
By Bravo on 11/19/24 2:46pm



Msg #649656

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question for all the tech smart notaries
By aanotary on 11/18/24 11:35am

My lap top is very old and I think I'll need a new one soon. I don't use my apple lap top for much more than sending & receiving emails , browsing the web and printing documents. Can I get away with just an iPad and accomplish all my notary work related tasks? thank you for your help ( non techy person here)

Msg #649652

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Black light for id check? Anyone do this?
By SReis on 11/16/24 1:14pm

I have always thought as notaries we should have some sort of scanner like they have at bars to check to make sure the id we are checking is legit. While I always review all info and the pic, some of the new "fake" ids look so real it may be hard to spot the fake esp if its an out of state license. One of the suggestions to prevent against fraud was to use a black light to check for the holograms that most state ids have.

Found this helpful guideline online too re: each state's security feature on the ids so you know what to look for.

https://www.drimark.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/State-ID-List-2013-UV-markings.pdf

Seems like an easy suggestion and just one more protection we can use to usurp these fraudsters.

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