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Re: Your post should scare the bajeebers out of all of us, Bobbi
Posted by  VT_Syrup of VT on 10/22/17 12:12pmMsg #585205
As far as documents being nullified/voided, what comes up all the time in court cases is when a mortgagor goes bankrupt. The federal bankruptcy trustee will try to have the mortgage voided so when the property is auctioned off, it will be distributed to all the creditors, not just the bank that holds the mortgage. All the bankruptcy trustee has to do is show the mortgage wasn't recorded, or shouldn't have been recorded.

In most states, if the notarization is fatally flawed, the mortgage shouldn't have been recorded, so the bankruptcy trustee can avoid the mortgage. The bank has to share the proceeds of the auction with all the other creditors. The bank might be inclined to go after the notary between what the bank actually received and what they would have received if they got all the proceeds of the auction.

Some reasons notarizations have been considered fatally flawed are the notary forgetting to fill in the signer's name, and the notary forgetting to write in the notary's title ("notary public"). Usually it's good enough if the notary's title appears on the notary's seal, but not all states require seals.

Massachusetts acknowledgements have been found to be fatally flawed because, although they indicated that the signer acknowledged signing the document, the certificate does not say if the signer acknowledged signing the document voluntarily, with words such as "free act and deed".
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 Received My Minnesota Notary Primer - PegiT_MN on 10/21/17 9:17am
 Is this issued by your state or XYZ? n/m - Linda_H/FL on 10/21/17 9:23am
 Re: Is this issued by your state or XYZ? - PegiT_MN on 10/21/17 9:29am
 I had one of those back when I first moved to FL - Linda_H/FL on 10/21/17 9:47am
 Linda, my experience mirrors yours for OK from that same biz -  Christine/OK on 10/21/17 11:15am
 I had the same experience with the Primer from XYZ. -  MW/VA on 10/21/17 11:19am
 Years ago, it wasn't even correct for CA. -  JanetK_CA on 10/22/17 3:01am
 No. You can't trust the info in those Primers, Pegi. -  MW/VA on 10/21/17 11:20am
 They answer per THEIR model notary act - Lee/AR on 10/21/17 11:32am
 Re: Received My Minnesota Notary Primer - PegiT_MN on 10/21/17 12:03pm
 Peggy is correct re CIWS: - BearPaw/CO on 10/21/17 12:40pm
 To Prim Or Not To Prim . . . - PegiT_MN on 10/21/17 12:51pm
 Re: To Prim Or Not To Prim . . . - notapakrfan on 10/21/17 1:08pm
 Re: To Prim Or Not To Prim . . . - Lee/AR on 10/21/17 1:44pm
 ??? - Clem/CA on 10/22/17 10:01am
 Woops, Clem - BearPaw/CO on 10/22/17 11:13am
 MODEL Notary Act ... - BobbiCT on 10/22/17 10:09am
 Your post should scare the bajeebers out of all of us, Bobbi - BearPaw/CO on 10/22/17 11:46am
 Re: Your post should scare the bajeebers out of all of us, Bobbi -  VT_Syrup on 10/22/17 12:12pm
 On and on it goes - BearPaw/CO on 10/22/17 2:22pm
 Re: On and on it goes -  VT_Syrup on 10/22/17 4:36pm
 Re: On and on it goes - BearPaw/CO on 10/22/17 5:45pm
 Re: On and on it goes -  VT_Syrup on 10/22/17 8:29pm
 As VT Syrup wrote ... - BobbiCT on 10/23/17 7:21am
 not worth it - rengel/CA on 10/22/17 10:21am



 
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