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What's getting lost in the GOP uproar about...
Posted by MikeC/TX of TX on 10/24/19 5:31pm Msg #72953
... the House investigation of Trump:

1. Investigations are usually closed-door hearings and depositions, especially when there could be sensitive information involved.

2. The House committees are following a House Rule which says that only members of the committee and their counsel can attend closed-door sessions. That rule was written in 2015 by the Republicans, and used by them during the Benghazi investigation. With the exception of Hillary Clinton, all witness testimony during those hearings was behind closed doors. Chairman Trey Gowdy threw Darrell Issa - a member of his own party - out of a meeting because Issa was not a committee member. Chairman Adam Schiff was following that same rule when he denied Matt Gaetz access to the hearing.

3. All members of the committees involved can attend the session and ask questions. Counsel for each side of the aisle is given the exact same amount of time to question the witness. There are 44 GOP House members on those committees, including 12 of whom were among the GOPers who illegally stormed the committee hearing.

4. Once the investigation phase is completed, public hearings will be held. The House MAY allow Trump's attorneys to cross-examine witnesses, but they are not required to do so. Republican members of the committees and their counsel, however, will be able to.

5. There are no due process rights in an investigation because no one has been charged with anything. The House investigation is like a grand jury, and neither the target nor his attorneys are involved in the grand jury process. If the House votes to impeach, the matter goes to the Senate for trial and THAT is where due process would occur. However, the Fifth Amendment only applies to criminal and civil cases; impeachment is a political process and POTUS is not at risk of losing life, liberty, or property. The absolute worst that could happen is that he could be removed from office. The Senate will decide the rules of a trial.

The Republicans know all this because they have done the exact same things they are screaming at the Dems for doing. It's all political theater, playing to Trump's base, betting that most of them don't have any idea how Congress works.

As Carl Sandberg once wrote: “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.”
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