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Hugh, RE: Msg #74707, history begs to differ with you...
Posted by Moneyman/TX of TX on 6/27/20 8:36am Msg #75160
I haven't been on here in a while so I have been catching up on some of the past postings when I ran across your "Joe" post Msg #74707

Just wanted to point out a few things that you seem to be confused about as your version of "history" regarding certain aspects within the script of your one act play.

1) Hugh's Version (HV): "The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards."

Actual History (AH): That "tree-hugging liberal" was actually Richard Nixon, the Republican president
"...President Richard Nixon presented the House and Senate a groundbreaking 37-point message on the environment. These points included:" http://www.epa.gov/history/origins-epa

2) HV: "His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised."

AH: Once again, that "stupid commie liberal" would be the Republican president, Theodore Roosevelt, and a majority Republican House & Senate (the 59th U.S. Congress).

The 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act and creation of the FDA
"In June 1906, President Theodore Roosevelt signed into law the Food and Drug Act, also known as the "Wiley Act" after its chief advocate.[1] The Act prohibited ... the interstate transport of food which had been "adulterated," with that term referring to the addition of fillers of reduced "quality or strength," coloring to conceal "damage or inferiority," formulation with additives "injurious to health," or the use of "filthy, decomposed, or putrid" substances. The act applied similar penalties to the interstate marketing of "adulterated" drugs ..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Food_and_Drug_Administration

3) HV: "...Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled ...because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body ..."

AH: SEE #2 AH section
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Food_and_Drug_Administration

4) HV: "Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to reduce industry pollution in our air."

AH: SEE #1 AH section
http://www.epa.gov/history/origins-epa

5) HV: "retirement (plans)"

AH: I hate to break it to you, Hugh, but the first retirement plans were actually started by those evil and greedy private businesses. In fact, the companies back then usually shouldered the entire burden of funding them rather than the type of retirement plans we have today where the employee is mostly responsible for funding their own retirement plans with the businesses typically kicking in a small matching %. "In 1875, The American Express Co. created the first private pension plan in the U.S...."
http://www.workforce.com/news/the-history-of-retirement-benefits

6) HV: "He (radio talk show host) doesn't mention that the beloved Conservatives have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day."

(Oh, I think I might have to refer to one of those "pants on fire" scales to rate the truthfulness of this one, Hugh.)

AH: SEE * EVERY * AH (#'s 1-5) & the corresponding links above.


To be fair, you did correctly attribute some of the benefits you listed. It is the areas where you tapped into your revisionist history 'Mark Twain' creative imagination writing persona that I felt should pointed out.

If you would care to respond, I would enjoy hearing from you my friend.
However, should you be tempted to claim one of those false "but the parties have swapped" type of arguments, please remember that Nixon is included in the above list. Also, it should be noted that every Democratic president from Kennedy, LBJ, and Carter refused to ensure that the black White House staff received the same pay as their white counterparts when the pay difference was brought to their attention. It was the Republican Ronald Regan who would not stand for such discrimination and immediately rectified the unfair low pay situation for the black staff at the WH.
For reference see the movie -- Lee Daniels' The Butler (2013) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1327773/

Once again, for the record, my political beliefs are closer in line with Libertarians. I just can't stand the constant distortion of the actual record and history in order to fit a false narrative.
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Messages in this Thread
 Hugh, RE: Msg #74707, history begs to differ with you... - Moneyman/TX on 6/27/20 8:36am
 Two thumbs up! n/m - Luckydog on 6/27/20 12:45pm
 Re: Hugh, RE: Msg #74707, history begs to differ with you... - HisHughness on 6/27/20 5:42pm
 Re: Hugh, RE: Msg #74707, history begs to differ with you... - MikeC/TX on 6/27/20 6:13pm
 So basically, you know you are wrong, just don't care. n/m - Moneyman/TX on 7/4/20 4:25pm
 Re: So basically, you know you are wrong, just don - HisHughness on 7/5/20 12:46am
 Not according to the links I provided. n/m - Moneyman/TX on 7/10/20 6:20am



 
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