World War II - most of us were babies or yet to be born then. It is also comparing apples to oranges - not the same thing. Since you persist in this question, please think of the consequences for that notary in Nazi Germany......can you think what the consequence would be if that notary said no? Can you think of what the consequences would be for any person who stood in the way of the Nazi machine?
Now, let's just progress to modern day American notaries - those of us in the United States of America. Can we agree to focus on just them? In fact, let us just focus on you and I - and forget about the rest of them for just right now and see if we can find some perspective. Can we do that?......
OK - Let's, for the sake of argument, say that both of us have the same beliefs (which, coincidently, I think we do.) If someone comes to me for notization of a document, they usually ask if I can do this for them. I reply that they must show me valid ID, unexpired, that I must be convinced that they are who they say they are and then that they are signing of their own free will, and must be over age 18. I assume you do the same? Ok, we agree and are together on this.
The document is then signed and I notarize after witnessing them signing. As I enter the title of the document into my journal, I notice it is something I personally don't agree with, so I remind myself that the law says this is ok and that God is ok with me doing my job. All laws of the land are to be complied with, until they are changed. This is written in the Bible: "King James Bible, Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him."
This was a trap for Jesus, but his answer showed how to conduct your life in a secular world; how to separate church and state. Just His verse alone is out of context of the entire story - so reading the entire story, putting this in context, may assist you in conducting your notarial role. Please read to see if you cannot reconcile your belief to your job. http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/Articles/Render_unto_Caesar.html
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| National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - JustANotary on 6/30/11 11:15am |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - laurel/nc on 6/30/11 11:19am |
| Just because you may not agree with a particular document - FlaNotary2 on 6/30/11 11:22am |
| In addition, while I may not necessarily support the - FlaNotary2 on 6/30/11 11:22am |
| Re: Just because you may not agree with a particular document - JustANotary on 6/30/11 11:39am |
| I would agree with Robert. - Shoshana/AZ on 6/30/11 11:29am |
| Re: I would agree with Robert. - laurel/nc on 6/30/11 11:40am |
| Honestly this would be handled in the Dr office - SouthernOK on 6/30/11 11:47am |
| Would you notarize a doc if you thought there was fraud? - JustANotary on 6/30/11 11:58am |
| Time to switch to just politics n/m - HARRY_PA on 6/30/11 12:02pm |
| agreed this has crossed from work to politics/religion n/m - SouthernOK on 6/30/11 12:14pm |
| Re: Would you notarize a doc if you thought there was fraud? - Calnotary on 6/30/11 12:03pm |
| Re: Would you notarize a doc if you thought there was fraud? - JustANotary on 6/30/11 12:16pm |
| IMO, fraud involves knowledge of a false statement - Linda_H/FL on 6/30/11 12:37pm |
| Re: Would you notarize a doc if you thought there was fraud? - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 12:51pm |
| Thank God we don't have such restrictions in Florida - FlaNotary2 on 6/30/11 12:53pm |
| Well put JustANotary ... - BobbiCT on 6/30/11 12:06pm |
| Re: Well put JustANotary ... - Julie/MI on 6/30/11 12:23pm |
| "Nice to see the Evil One's presence... - NJDiva on 6/30/11 12:45pm |
| I heard on radio yesterday, that a County Clerk in NY has - Bob_Chicago on 6/30/11 12:02pm |
| Just incase... - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 12:08pm |
| I agree w/ Bob. Follow the law or resign your postion. n/m - Moneyman/TX on 6/30/11 12:41pm |
| Re: I heard on radio yesterday, that a County Clerk in NY has - MikeC/NY on 6/30/11 3:52pm |
| Here is a link that I found on Google. Posted w/o comment - Bob_Chicago on 6/30/11 4:18pm |
| Re: Here is a link that I found on Google. Posted w/o comment - MikeC/NY on 6/30/11 8:31pm |
| This is not a one size fits all situation IMHO - SouthernOK on 6/30/11 12:08pm |
| Re: This is not a one size fits all situation IMHO - JustANotary on 6/30/11 12:11pm |
| If baby dies in utero? n/m - SouthernOK on 6/30/11 12:13pm |
| Re: If baby dies in utero? - JanetK_CA on 6/30/11 6:21pm |
| Not picking on you but if you're in Ca maybe you should - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 12:12pm |
| Why is it anyone's business WHAT is in the doc??? - NJDiva on 6/30/11 12:17pm |
| oops, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION n/m - NJDiva on 6/30/11 12:18pm |
| Re: Why is it anyone's business WHAT is in the doc??? - JustANotary on 6/30/11 12:18pm |
| Seen it here many times, how do I determine that? - NJDiva on 6/30/11 12:29pm |
| Re: Why is it anyone's business WHAT is in the doc??? - SharonMN on 7/1/11 3:49pm |
| It is time for you to resign your commission - HisHughness on 6/30/11 12:24pm |
| Re: It is time for you to resign your commission - JustANotary on 6/30/11 12:28pm |
| If they feel they are incapable of doing the job ... Yes. n/m - Moneyman/TX on 6/30/11 12:39pm |
| Re: It is time for you to resign your commission - JanetK_CA on 6/30/11 6:24pm |
| I (heart) Hugh n/m - SouthernOK on 6/30/11 12:30pm |
| I (heart) Hugh - NJDiva on 6/30/11 12:34pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 12:47pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - JustANotary on 6/30/11 12:59pm |
| lol...but the point is.... - NJDiva on 6/30/11 1:10pm |
| Re: lol...but the point is.... - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 1:15pm |
| Re: lol...but the point is.... - JustANotary on 6/30/11 1:30pm |
| OH, boy.... - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 1:35pm |
| Is that the title of the affidavit???? - NJDiva on 6/30/11 2:23pm |
| Yes, Hugh addressed the absurd reference to Nazi Germany, - Susan Fischer on 6/30/11 3:07pm |
| We cannot answer your question about notaries in - jba/fl on 6/30/11 8:01pm |
| JustANotary you should take this to politics IMO n/m - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 1:14pm |
| JustANotary, you should get off your righteous high horse - HisHughness on 6/30/11 1:15pm |
| Bravo, Hugh!!!! n/m - JanetK_CA on 6/30/11 6:29pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 1:15pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - JustANotary on 6/30/11 1:40pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - HisHughness on 6/30/11 1:59pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - JustANotary on 6/30/11 2:13pm |
| If that's the case, tell us how your IRS audit turned out - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 2:22pm |
| Re: If that's the case, tell us how your IRS audit turned out - JustANotary on 6/30/11 2:27pm |
| deducting for meals! n/m - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 2:30pm |
| Re: deducting for meals! - JustANotary on 6/30/11 2:34pm |
| Re: deducting for meals! - Notarysigner on 6/30/11 2:38pm |
| JUSTANOTARY...TAKE THIS TO POLITICS...I DON'T CARE!!! - NJDiva on 6/30/11 2:34pm |
| Actually, this started out as being published in the - Linda_H/FL on 6/30/11 2:42pm |
| Not the Germany stuff and the person's moral beliefs... - NJDiva on 6/30/11 2:52pm |
| That was the whole point of the article - Linda_H/FL on 6/30/11 3:11pm |
| And I was referring to the Germany, morals, blah, blah, blah - NJDiva on 6/30/11 3:30pm |
| Re: And I was referring to the Germany, morals, blah, blah, blah - JanetK_CA on 6/30/11 6:35pm |
| Re: Actually, this started out as being published in the - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 3:08pm |
| Re: Actually, this started out as being published in the - HisHughness on 6/30/11 3:14pm |
| You are a piece of work, JustANotary - HisHughness on 6/30/11 3:09pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - KSMONotary on 6/30/11 1:59pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - Buddy Young on 6/30/11 6:19pm |
| Re: National Notary Assn & Abortion.... - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 2:12pm |
| This should be in politics, but here goes.... - GOLDGIRL/CA on 6/30/11 2:47pm |
| Re: This should be in politics, but here goes.... - Buddy Young on 6/30/11 6:27pm |
| Public statement - MikeC/NY on 6/30/11 8:14pm |
| I'll just add my 2 cents... - MikeC/NY on 6/30/11 4:54pm |
| Re: I'll just add my 2 cents... - JustANotary on 6/30/11 9:18pm |
| Re: I'll just add my 2 cents... - Marian_in_CA on 6/30/11 9:22pm |
| Re: I'll just add my 2 cents... - jba/fl on 6/30/11 9:33pm |
| And to add: - Sylvia_FL on 6/30/11 9:45pm |
| Re: I'll just add my 2 cents... - Sylvia_FL on 6/30/11 9:40pm |
| I can't quite believe this thread took off like it did. The - MW/VA on 6/30/11 9:29pm |
| By the way.....The NNA does monitor this board. - Shoshana/AZ on 7/1/11 7:02am |
| If they do, I'm sure they'd be thrilled to see the "stir" - MW/VA on 7/1/11 9:00am |