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Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office...
Posted by  Marian_in_CA of CA on 7/27/11 12:09am Msg #391482
That's why I brought it up... this example seems off from what many of us actually practice. We all have a perception of what "difficult or impossible means" -- and I doubt any of us would consider, "I left it at home," a reasonable response. Yet, according to the student manual published by the state... it seems that we should allow it.


The vast majority here have said many times that they will not allow the use of a CW if the person has some form of ID, even if it doesn't meet the ID requirements (expired, wrong name, etc.) The reasoning? Because they *do* have ID, but they haven't taken the time to get if fixed. Thing is, I can't find anything in our handbook or in the code where this is something we should do (deny the use of a CW). Obviously, we can't accept improper ID, that's a given, but where is it noted that we can deny them the use of a CW because *we* don't feel it is difficult or impossible to get proper ID? And, in the case of the manual... even if it means they left it a home? The law allows for use of CWs in the absence of proper ID.


As a notary, we can verify that the CWs have proper ID. We can verify that they aren't named in the document and express to them the rest of the requirements are for being a CW. If the CW has proper ID, is not named in the document and is willing to swear under oath to the 5 things they're supposed to swear to... then what else are we to do? The CW has met all of the legal requirements to establish the person's identity.


Based on the example given, the SOS is declaring that Rene can appear provided Rene fulfills all of the CWs requirements.
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 Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 7:29pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  jba/fl on 7/26/11 7:35pm
 LOL! Technicalities! n/m -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 7:36pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  Notarysigner on 7/26/11 8:12pm
 correction.. -  Notarysigner on 7/26/11 8:14pm
 Re: correction.. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 8:17pm
 Re: correction.. -  Notarysigner on 7/26/11 8:22pm
 Re: correction.. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 8:28pm
 First of all, this circumstance is extremely unlikely - FlaNotary2 on 7/26/11 8:19pm
 Re: First of all, this circumstance is extremely unlikely -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 8:26pm
 To add to that... -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 8:38pm
 I could easily justify the refusal - FlaNotary2 on 7/26/11 8:46pm
 Re: I could easily justify the refusal -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 8:54pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... - Lee/AR on 7/26/11 8:20pm
 PLEASE continue I believe you. LOL n/m -  Notarysigner on 7/26/11 8:24pm
 It's also obvious that the writer failed to mention taht - FlaNotary2 on 7/26/11 8:27pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  MW/VA on 7/26/11 8:44pm
 Hence, the "gray area" I mentioned. You guys are funny! n/m - Jules/CA on 7/26/11 9:16pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  JanetK_CA on 7/27/11 11:51pm
 On another note - FlaNotary2 on 7/26/11 8:47pm
 Re: On another note - Sylvia_FL on 7/26/11 9:25pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... - Jules/CA on 7/26/11 9:11pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 9:40pm
 How did Irene get to CA? -  jba/fl on 7/26/11 10:06pm
 Re: How did Irene get to CA? - Lee/AR on 7/26/11 10:12pm
 Re: How did Irene get to CA? -  jba/fl on 7/26/11 10:13pm
 You guys are too funny. n/m -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 10:17pm
 Re: How did Irene get to CA? - Jules/CA on 7/26/11 10:48pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... - Jules/CA on 7/26/11 10:45pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  LKT/CA on 7/26/11 11:11pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  Marian_in_CA on 7/26/11 11:28pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  LKT/CA on 7/26/11 11:38pm
 Re: Interesting information from CA SoS's office... -  Marian_in_CA on 7/27/11 12:09am
 Marian, this brings us back to the original issue I raised - FlaNotary2 on 7/27/11 8:15am
 Re: Marian, this brings us back to the original issue I raised -  Marian_in_CA on 7/27/11 10:56am
 You're comparing apples to oranges - FlaNotary2 on 7/27/11 11:46am
 Re: You're comparing apples to oranges -  Marian_in_CA on 7/27/11 1:09pm
 Re: You're comparing apples to oranges - Jules/CA on 8/2/11 8:59pm



 
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