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Playing the devil's advocate here let's see if I got this
Posted by  Paul2_FL of FL on 8/29/08 6:26pm Msg #262646
right:
NCLisa hires a NSA to conduct a signing in WV for a property that's located in NC.
NCLisa has no experience with this NSA and relies on ?
NCLisa contacts attorney who says "that since it was an NC property an NSA could close it".
NCLisa is unfamiliar with WV law and assumes attorney is correct.
Notary Signing Agent is clueless when it comes to this business. Whiteout, broken seal, etc.
Lender was negligent in getting docs to NCLisa in time to do mailaways.

Working backwards I would say that it made no difference that the Lender was late with the docs. NCLisa was able to email them in time for the closing. Lender off the hook.
This NSA screwed up this package royally and should not be paid but should be shot!
NCLisa learns a lesson not to trust what an attorney says regarding closings in Attorney States.
Attorney's feet should be held to a fire for giving inaccurate information to NCLisa. Attorney should share the blame.
All hiring companies run the risk of getting a "bad" SA at times. There is no foolproof method of assuring the hiring company that the person they hire is "experienced" even though they say they are. No penalty here.
Borrowers should not have to pay an additional $900. Unfortunately it looks like that would have to come from NCLisa's company unless she can work a deal with the Lender. PAW's suggestion of going after the NSA's bond for this amount may or may not pan out. In a court of law the real problem IMO is the closing of a loan in WV without an attorney.

Summing up - NCLisa kick the living s### out of your NCattorney for giving you bad advice and find a way for the borrowers not to have to pay the $900. (Attorney's fee maybe?)
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 Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 12:34pm
 Maybe that explains why W VA is an attorney-only state n/m -  Linda_H/FL on 8/29/08 12:36pm
 Well, that begs the question ... -  PAW on 8/29/08 1:25pm
 Re: Well, that begs the question ... -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 1:45pm
 Re: Well, that begs the question ... -  PAW on 8/29/08 2:10pm
 Re: Well, that begs the question ... -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 4:33pm
 I think PAW is right -  MikeC/NY on 8/29/08 8:41pm
 How many Bars did He/She have???? hee hee n/m -  bfd110_IN on 8/29/08 12:37pm
 LOL...more like how many had she been in!!..:) n/m -  Linda_H/FL on 8/29/08 12:38pm
 She has a 705, missing 2 bars. n/m -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 12:39pm
 maybe she did those 2 bars on the way?.... -  jba/fl on 8/29/08 1:06pm
 Re: How many Bars did He/She have???? hee hee - goodgirl on 8/29/08 6:56pm
 Re: How many Bars did He/She have???? hee hee - WDMD on 8/29/08 7:06pm
 Re: Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! - notaryinmo on 8/29/08 12:40pm
 That was mean...sorry Lisa....seriously -  Linda_H/FL on 8/29/08 12:40pm
 Re: That was mean...sorry Lisa....seriously -  bfd110_IN on 8/29/08 12:48pm
 Re: That was mean...sorry Lisa....seriously -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 12:50pm
 If I was the borrower, someone other than ME would be - Linda Juenger on 8/29/08 1:26pm
 Re: If I was the borrower, someone other than ME would be -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 1:52pm
 Re: If I was the borrower, someone other than ME would be - CaliNotary on 8/29/08 3:27pm
 Re: If I was the borrower, someone other than ME would be - CopperheadVA on 8/29/08 2:25pm
 Re: Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! -  Tish/CA on 8/29/08 1:57pm
 Let me correct myself -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 2:01pm
 Re: Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! - LKT/CA on 8/29/08 2:32pm
 Re: Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! -  jba/fl on 8/29/08 2:58pm
 The state of WV differs from NC -  Philip Johnson on 8/29/08 2:43pm
 An experienced NSA would not use white out.... -  janCA on 8/29/08 2:56pm
 I didn't see anyone say the transaction was invalid, just -  Charles_Ca on 8/29/08 3:01pm
 Re: The state of WV differs from NC - BP/WV on 8/29/08 3:25pm
 My 2 Cents - BP/WV on 8/29/08 3:21pm
 So Betty since you brought this up, it looks like -  Philip Johnson on 8/29/08 3:53pm
 Re: So Betty since you brought this up, it looks like - BP/WV on 8/29/08 4:50pm
 Phillip, that would be the attorney who made the -  Linda_H/FL on 8/29/08 5:01pm
 Re: Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! - Ilene C. Seidel on 8/29/08 3:25pm
 Playing the devil's advocate here let's see if I got this -  Paul2_FL on 8/29/08 6:26pm
 I did not ask an attorney for advice, it was the attorney's -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 9:20pm
 Why were you involved at all as a signing service.... -  LynnNC on 8/30/08 9:23am
 Ooops, I re-read your post and now see.... -  LynnNC on 8/30/08 9:25am
 We are not an SS! -  NCLisa on 8/30/08 10:18am
 Re: Hired an NSA and it was a disaster! -  SheilaSJCA on 8/29/08 7:20pm
 No, I wouldn't pay the notary. But.... - desktopfull on 8/29/08 8:04pm
 I am not a signing service, I hired the NSA as a real estate -  NCLisa on 8/29/08 9:26pm
 Solution: Professional Network NSA -  MistarellaFL on 8/29/08 8:09pm
 Re: Solution: Professional Network NSA - WDMD on 8/30/08 6:10am
 Re: Solution: Professional Network NSA -  NCLisa on 8/30/08 7:29am
 Re: Solution: Professional Network NSA -  MistarellaFL on 8/30/08 8:22am
 Re: Solution: Professional Network NSA - WDMD on 8/30/08 9:03am
 Guess what was missing from the loan package? -  NCLisa on 8/30/08 7:33am
 RTC? n/m - Lee/AR on 8/30/08 8:46am
 My guess is the note n/m -  MistarellaFL on 8/30/08 8:48am
 You got it, she did not send any note back! n/m -  NCLisa on 8/30/08 10:20am
 And what good is a loan package w/o the note? -  MistarellaFL on 8/30/08 10:24am
 Getting back to your original post ... -  Paul2_FL on 8/30/08 10:58am
 Re: And what good is a loan package w/o the note? -  NCLisa on 8/30/08 11:26am
 Re: And what good is a loan package w/o the note? - JanetK_CA on 8/30/08 6:50pm



 
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