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Re: Trumps not the only one...
Posted by  JanetK_CA of CA on 1/18/23 12:09am Msg #82300
So far, I haven't seen any evidence that Biden intentionally "took" classified documents. I've heard more than one former White House staffer describe the transition when administrations change hands as an extremely hectic time, with lots of scrambling, which I don't find surprising. Staffers are likely the ones quickly packing up boxes that end up having to get moved out to somewhere.

When I moved into my current home, my company at the time paid for the movers who just packed up everything. I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I still have a box or two that hasn't been unpacked since I moved in and is sitting in my garage. Wink That kind of stuff happens, although that doesn't excuse it.

Intent, however, makes a huge difference under the law. I believe the National Archives tried to retrieve the documents from Trump for about 8 or 9 months. He was asked twice to return them before the subpoena was issued, none of which resulted in the documents (boxes and boxes of them) being returned. As we all now know, it eventually became necessary to have a legal warrant issued for an FBI search to go retrieve them.

Again, in Biden's case, it seems NARA didn't even realize the few pages found were missing. Apparently, Biden's attorneys contacted NARA within hours of finding them and arrangements were made to turn them over the next day. It's also possible Biden didn't even know they were there until told. The situation is being fully investigated and so far, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of a lack of cooperation on his part.

The differences in these two situations are huge and become obvious from the point it was realized that there were documents misplaced. But they're both being investigated by a special prosecutor, so if there's more to either situation, we'll find out. However, making assumptions just leads to disinformation.

One thing we can probably all agree on is that there clearly needs to be a better system in our federal government for tracking classified documents. Hopefully that will be a result of all these discussions and investigations so that this type of thing never happens again. I've also heard some say that they need to examine over-classification of documents.
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Messages in this Thread
 Trumps not the only one... - PaigeTurner on 1/11/23 10:33am
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - bagger on 1/11/23 3:52pm
 Now a second batch...oh boy n/m - Linda_H/FL on 1/11/23 5:42pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - shooterclay on 1/11/23 8:00pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... Yep - Linda_H/FL on 1/11/23 9:34pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - MikeC/TX on 1/12/23 5:11pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - bagger on 1/13/23 3:50pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - MikeC/TX on 1/13/23 6:39pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - PaigeTurner on 1/14/23 4:17pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - MikeC/TX on 1/14/23 7:04pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - PaigeTurner on 1/15/23 2:46pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - MikeC/TX on 1/15/23 6:19pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - PaigeTurner on 1/18/23 11:31am
 Re: Trumps not the only one... -  JanetK_CA on 1/18/23 12:09am
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - PaigeTurner on 1/19/23 3:33pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - shooterclay on 1/15/23 9:55pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... -  janCA on 1/16/23 5:28pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... - PaigeTurner on 1/19/23 3:35pm
 Re: Trumps not the only one... -  JanetK_CA on 2/3/23 2:45am



 
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