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Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow.
Posted by  Marian_in_CA of CA on 7/25/11 11:24am Msg #391099
James, it's the just the same PDF file you can download from the website. I just open it on my phone since it can read PDF files. My Blackberry had a PDF reader, but I recently switched to Android, and it reads them without any special apps.

I do want to clarify that I NEVER tell people outright that CWs are a good idea from the start... it's a last resort. UPS dude offered it straight away without asking him about other options.

I do think that that those of you who blanket refuse to use family members as CWs are doing so in error... though I *DO* fully understand why you feel that way. I just know that the handbook gives the requirements, and absent any information that disqualifies them... then a family member can be used.

Of course people who have ID and don't want to update it are lazy.... but again, "very difficult or impossible" is subjective and CA law is not asking the notary to make that determination... the law tells us that it is the CW who swears to the fact. That's my point here. The only place we find "very difficult or impossible" is in relation to what the CW is telling you under oath...

"The credible witness reasonably believes that the circumstances of the signer are such that it would be very difficult or impossible for the signer to obtain another form of identification."


It doesn't matter what the NOTARY believes... it's what the credible witness believes and is willing to swear to. There's a big difference there.

If it were left up to ME, as a notary.... then it would be a different conversation and my position would be more similar to many of you. But, I'm going by what it says in the handbook.

I know that if I were denied the ability to be a CW for a family member who needed it, solely because I was a family member and I had no financial interest in a document.... then I'd be on the phone to the SoS in a heartbeat filing a complaint.
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 UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/24/11 8:33pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow.....I'm confused -  Linda_H/FL on 7/24/11 8:38pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow.....I'm confused -  Marian_in_CA on 7/24/11 9:16pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  LKT/CA on 7/24/11 10:11pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/24/11 10:42pm
 I think your response is absolutely correct. -  Joan Bergstrom on 7/24/11 11:50pm
 Re: I think your response is absolutely correct. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 12:34am
 Disagree. - FlaNotary2 on 7/25/11 10:00am
 Well, said Robert...I agree n/m -  Linda_H/FL on 7/25/11 10:06am
 Re: Well, said Robert...I agree -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 11:29am
 But isn't it one of the basic principles of the office of - FlaNotary2 on 7/25/11 12:19pm
 Re: But isn't it one of the basic principles of the office of -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 12:41pm
 Re: Disagree. -  LKT/CA on 7/25/11 4:55pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  LKT/CA on 7/25/11 1:08am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 1:55am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  JanetK_CA on 7/25/11 2:02am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 2:09am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Notarysigner on 7/25/11 8:18am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 11:24am
 Thanks Marian for that info and. -  Notarysigner on 7/25/11 12:15pm
 SO COOL thanks again...I didn't have -  Notarysigner on 7/25/11 12:40pm
 Re: SO COOL thanks again...I didn't have -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 12:48pm
 Re: Thanks Marian for that info and. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 12:44pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. - FlaNotary2 on 7/25/11 10:09am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 11:26am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  JanetK_CA on 7/26/11 1:29am
 Here's an example - FlaNotary2 on 7/26/11 7:47am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  LKT/CA on 7/25/11 4:46pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  Marian_in_CA on 7/25/11 5:02pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  LKT/CA on 7/25/11 9:47pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  JanetK_CA on 7/26/11 2:49am
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. - NotaryMot/CA on 7/24/11 11:51pm
 Re: UPS Notary Experience. Wow. -  JanetK_CA on 7/25/11 12:57am
 UPS/Pack-N-Ship/Amscot notaries are the absolute - FlaNotary2 on 7/25/11 10:12am
 Test a UPS notary and put your commission at risk? - MaggieMae_CA on 7/25/11 1:44pm
 Seriously? - FlaNotary2 on 7/25/11 3:27pm



 
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