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Posted by BearPaw/CO of CO on 2/2/19 4:04pm Msg #602775
This is a classic case of he said, she said, Unless that UPS store has a video of the notary instructing her to sign as a witness, well..... too bad, IMO. And even if he did, it's her fault for signing there because it's not the notary's responsibility to know how wills should be filled out and signed. At least I have never read that in any handbook of the two states where I've been a notary. SignerBill is right; just refuse to notarize. The couple should have known what's required to compete a will. If they were seeking guidance on what to do (which they obviously were), and the notary told them wrong stuff, then the notary is guilty of UPL. Fact is, if the notary told them right stuff, still likely UPL. How many times do we know the answer to these type of questions but are not allowed to answer. And now it's 100% the notary's fault? Not based on the info in the story.
Then again, the notary may not have known she was the wife and assumed she was a witness. This is unlikely (ya never know), but certainly is something the notary could offer as a defense. Are SC notaries responsible for knowing how many witnesses need to sign a will? And on and on it goes.

That said, most if not all UPS notaries (not to mention corner store notaries) are complete idiots. At least that's been my experience. And only a bigger idiot would take a will into a UPS store.
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 Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem - JanetK_CA on 2/1/19 2:50pm
 Yep, that was a costly mistake. The UPS Franchise owners - grapebed on 2/1/19 3:03pm
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem -  janCA on 2/1/19 3:07pm
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem - Luckydog on 2/1/19 4:54pm
 Pretty much agree w/LD - Lee/AR on 2/1/19 6:32pm
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem -  John/CT on 2/1/19 6:44pm
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem - Luckydog on 2/1/19 7:28pm
 I think it's fairly common knowledge that UPS notaries -  MW/VA on 2/1/19 7:09pm
 Especially if a disinherited relative contests the will. n/m -  John/CT on 2/1/19 7:13pm
 Just Another UPS Notary Screw Up To Add To Their Pile -  PegiT_MN on 2/1/19 7:25pm
 Re: Just Another UPS Notary Screw Up To Add To Their Pile - Luckydog on 2/1/19 7:37pm
 Inevitably, UPS will get sued, just like FedEx... n/m -  Roger_OH on 2/1/19 9:24pm
 Re: Mess-up - Signerbill on 2/2/19 10:07am
 Another look - BearPaw/CO on 2/2/19 4:04pm
 Pay now or pay later - Carolyn Bodley on 2/2/19 6:37pm
 Every Notary Should Know The Notary Laws Of Their State -  PegiT_MN on 2/2/19 7:45pm
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem - Cheryl/SC on 2/2/19 11:37pm
 Cheryl,I often find myself in an identical situation wherein -  Christine/OK on 2/3/19 7:46am
 IMO why - Luckydog on 2/3/19 10:31am
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem -  JanetK_CA on 2/2/19 11:38pm
 Just to throw Florida law into this...(hehe) - Linda_H/FL on 2/3/19 7:47am
 Oh the irony! LOL n/m -  Christine/OK on 2/3/19 7:48am
 I, personally, disagree with this practice - Linda_H/FL on 2/3/19 8:06am
 Wow! - Luckydog on 2/3/19 10:33am
 It's really not our call LD - and now that we know the - Linda_H/FL on 2/3/19 12:01pm
 P.S. - in the situation I had recently (noted below) - Linda_H/FL on 2/3/19 12:02pm
 I don't blame notary or UPS - BobbiCT on 2/3/19 10:00am
 Re: I don - Luckydog on 2/3/19 10:38am
 I just ran into this situation.... - Linda_H/FL on 2/3/19 11:26am
 Re: Thank you Bobbi for saying it better than me - Carolyn Bodley on 2/3/19 11:18am
 Re: Thank you Bobbi for saying it better than me - jnew on 2/3/19 2:47pm
 Choosing Witnesses for a South Carolina Will - ABC Legal Docs, LLC - Jerry Lucas on 2/3/19 2:45pm
 Re: Choosing Witnesses for a South Carolina Will - Luckydog on 2/3/19 3:55pm
 “She expected her will to protect her after her husband died - Carolyn Bodley on 2/3/19 5:18pm
 Re: Mess-up by a UPS notary creates a major problem - Sue on 2/7/19 10:34am



 
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