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Re: Explain it its.not twisted, just thought out logically
Posted by  JanetK_CA of CA on 7/17/21 6:57pm Msg #633577
I heartily agree with your last sentence, LD, but I think your examples may not have helped you make your point.

If people believe the issue is just about whether or not to slap a label on someone, they're missing the point. What matters is whether or not that label is meaningful in the context being discussed (as LD said) and whether or not that meaning has a derogatory connotation. Is it relevant to the conversation? Does its mention add clarity or understanding to a conversation? And is that understanding because of objective facts or because of stereotypes, innuendo, or prejudice?

If someone is searching a site for a person who speaks a certain language, it's pretty obvious that that's highly relevant and informative. However, I think that the OP's was one of those posts that may just be close to borderline and I didn't have a problem with it when I read it. Saying that someone is "old" could be a value judgment about them OR it could simply be a description of their behavior. I've had borrowers younger than me act "old" (and I don't think I do...), so I choose to not take offense at that. I don't think it was meant to insult them, but rather to help explain why the appointment took so long. That was probably also the reason for mentioning their language. [And yes, I believe this was a statement about language and not about race.] I've run into very similar situations with borrowers who spoke a language I don't understand, and yes, it made the appointment take longer.

We live in a time of changing attitudes (good and bad) and it may mean a little introspection on *everyone's* part is in order if we value a civil society. For some, that might mean a quick review and possible edit of our comments before hitting Post. [I do that constantly... Wink] For others, it might mean a quick re-evaluation of our reactions to someone else's comments. [I try to do that often, as well.]

That's my Saturday afternoon ramble for the week... [I hope I managed to keep this to something that doesn't belong over in JP. Wink]
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 Seller -  Mike Goodey on 7/16/21 7:31pm
 Re: Seller - MariaMO on 7/16/21 10:03pm
 No need for this.comment Maria - Linda_H/FL on 7/16/21 10:16pm
 Right on cue! n/m - MariaMO on 7/16/21 10:31pm
 Re: No need for this.comment Maria - kcg on 7/17/21 6:03am
 the issue is mentioning their race, not the fact that they -  CPNS2006 on 7/17/21 8:24am
 Re: the issue is mentioning their race, not the fact that they - Carolyn Bodley on 7/17/21 9:08am
 Re: the issue is mentioning their race, not the fact that they - MariaMO on 7/18/21 7:33pm
 Can't agree on what's offensive...race or age...sheesh - Lee/AR on 7/17/21 5:14pm
 Can - Lee/AR on 7/17/21 5:14pm
 Re: No need for this.comment Maria - MariaMO on 7/18/21 7:30pm
 Agree w/Linda & TIRED of everything being racist or not PC n/m - Lee/AR on 7/17/21 10:03am
 Re: Seller - MikeC/TX on 7/18/21 5:10pm
 "He started filling out his copy". I don't give them the -  MW/VA on 7/17/21 9:52am
 Re: "He started filling out his copy". I don -  Mike Goodey on 7/17/21 10:59am
 Re: "He started filling out his copy". I don - Luckydog on 7/17/21 11:35am
 Re: "He started filling out his copy". I don -  Mike Goodey on 7/17/21 12:07pm
 Posting at least somewhat professionally here -  CPNS2006 on 7/17/21 1:35pm
 Re: Posting at least somewhat professionally here - Luckydog on 7/17/21 1:57pm
 You have all that twisted LD...wow. n/m -  CPNS2006 on 7/17/21 2:17pm
 Explain it its.not twisted, just thought out logically n/m - Luckydog on 7/17/21 4:02pm
 Re: Explain it its.not twisted, just thought out logically -  JanetK_CA on 7/17/21 6:57pm
 Re: Posting at least somewhat professionally here - MariaMO on 7/18/21 7:40pm
 Mike, I didn't find your narrative to be racist in the least -  Cheryl Elliott on 7/17/21 2:19pm
 Re: Mike, I didn -  Mike Goodey on 7/17/21 3:06pm
 Exactly! Hypersensitivity is rampant n/m - Luckydog on 7/17/21 4:04pm
 I didn't find it offensive either--just descriptive. ;-) n/m -  MW/VA on 7/17/21 4:35pm
 Me either - nothing wrong with OP n/m - Linda_H/FL on 7/18/21 5:53am
 Re: Seller -  Expeditor on 7/18/21 5:13pm
 Re: Seller - pdl/cali on 7/19/21 11:29am
 Don't be na´ve about seller packages.... - FeliseSoCal on 7/20/21 2:39pm
 Re: Seller - Joy/AK on 7/21/21 4:38am
 Re: Seller -  JanetK_CA on 7/21/21 3:00pm
 Culture - part of our biz - NVLSlady/VA on 7/22/21 12:49pm
 Re: Culture - part of our biz -  JanetK_CA on 7/23/21 2:44pm
 THANKS, Ms. J! n/m - NVLSlady/VA on 7/23/21 6:43pm



 
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