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Re: Terminology explained
Posted by VT_Syrup of VT on 1/25/21 10:00am Msg #628804
I disagree that a US Visa that says

Surname

Doe

Given Name

FNU

is making a statement that the visitor's actual surname is Doe and the visitor's actual given name is FNU.

We ***MUST*** interpret ID documents in accord with commonly used conventions followed by the issuers of those documents, together with common conventions about how names are written in the documents we notarize, such as deeds and oaths of office. So if I were visiting California when it came time for me to take my oath of office a notary, and present the oath form that says Legal name: Gerard Ashton together with my Vermont driver license which gives the name as

Ashton

Gerard J

it would be perfectly correct and would constitute "reasonable reliance" for the notary to recall that DMVs often write the surname first on driver licenses, and therefore the two names are consistent. This is no different than taking into account the State Department's published policy about how they write names in visas.

In the case of "FNA" showing up in a document, I think I'm in a better position to be a little flexible than a California. In past newsletter or the like, the notary section of the CA SOS office have indicated that notaries are not allowed to connect the dots. In Vermont, on the other hand, "Additional information. A notary public may require an individual to provide additional information or identification credentials necessary to assure the notary public of the identity of the individual." So if the individual could demonstrate he/she has been using FNU as an actual first name for a considerable period I could accept it.
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Messages in this Thread
 FNU-First Name Unknown - Carolyn Gordon on 1/21/21 5:31pm
 Re: FNU-First Name Unknown - Luckydog on 1/21/21 6:21pm
 Re: FNU-First Name Unknown - VT_Syrup on 1/21/21 7:25pm
 Re: FNU-First Name Unknown, Wall Street Journal - VT_Syrup on 1/21/21 7:38pm
 Can't see article without subscription Wall Street Journal n/m - Lee/AR on 1/21/21 8:04pm
 Re: WSJ subscription - VT_Syrup on 1/21/21 8:25pm
 Just close the ad to see the article. n/m -  MW/VA on 1/22/21 8:05am
 Thanks. This was very informative. ;-) n/m -  MW/VA on 1/22/21 8:04am
 It could be a typo and when you actually get - notarydi/CA on 1/22/21 3:21pm
 Re: FNU-First Name Unknown, Wall Street Journal - Carolyn Gordon on 1/24/21 11:44pm
 Terminology explained - Luckydog on 1/24/21 12:22pm
 Re: Terminology explained - VT_Syrup on 1/24/21 12:48pm
 Re: Terminology explained (placeholder) - NVLSlady/VA on 1/24/21 1:50pm
 Re: Terminology explained -  JanetK_CA on 1/24/21 8:14pm
 Re: Terminology explained - Luckydog on 1/25/21 8:57am
 Re: Terminology explained - VT_Syrup on 1/25/21 10:00am
 ? - Luckydog on 1/25/21 11:04am
 Re: ? - VT_Syrup on 1/25/21 11:16am
 Re: ? - Luckydog on 1/25/21 11:18am
 let me add - Luckydog on 1/25/21 12:29pm
 Re: let me add - VT_Syrup on 1/25/21 12:57pm
 Re: let me add - Luckydog on 1/25/21 4:14pm



 
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