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Finally, a comment that makes some sense! Thanks, Lee/AR!
Posted by  JanetK_CA of CA on 3/9/21 4:20pm Msg #630275
I'm not sure which is worse, the rant or the verbal attacks against the ranter... "Chill" is right! Let's please take the sniping and accusations back over to JP where they belong. (And BTW, I believe that anyone from a different state trying to interpret someone else's state law is frequently out of line.)

At the risk of repeating myself, I'd like to refer people back to the first item under "Satisfactory evidence" quoted in Clem's post. As I read it, the "absence of information..." is listed as a qualifier. So the disqualifier would be the PRESENCE of information, evidence, circumstance, etc. leading the notary to believe the person is NOT who (s)he claims to be. (And, of course, whatever else is required in the given situation.) The law doesn't say absolute proof is required, even though we all want to see that.

IMO, a missing initial is a gray area requiring a judgment call, which every notary has to make on the spot. But I don't see it as evidence that the person is NOT the same as the one named in the document all by itself. (A *different* initial shown might be.) Asking for further documentation (not to be used as the basis for identification, but for clarification) will likely either raise more questions and/or doubts, or answer them, leading the notary to a comfort level (s)he considers 'satisfactory', OR offering 'evidence' that would lead a reasonable person to doubt - and provide justification for walking. Others may interpret this differently, which is their right.

In my experience, the more the signer tries to intimidate, influence, brow beat, refer to what 'the other notary' did, etc., the less likely I'm going to feel comfortable proceeding. How they react has a lot to do with how I react (but the reverse can be true, too, so we need to be very careful here). In my entire notary career, I can think of only one time I left a signing because of that - and probably lost a client, too - but I think I made the right decision under the circumstances.
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 Privileged entitled white man tantrum - ID wrong + venting - Jennifer Mumford on 3/8/21 7:03pm
 Re: I am white and I find your Privileged entitled white man - Carolyn Bodley on 3/8/21 7:17pm
 Re: I am white and I find your Privileged entitled white man - Jennifer Mumford on 3/8/21 7:24pm
 Re: I am white and I find your Privileged entitled white man - Carolyn Bodley on 3/8/21 7:35pm
 Re: I am white and I find your Privileged entitled white man - Jennifer Mumford on 3/8/21 7:44pm
 Your post in and of itself was racist - Linda_H/FL on 3/8/21 7:50pm
 Re: Your post in and of itself was racist - Jennifer Mumford on 3/8/21 8:02pm
 Right..sure thing..my turn...wow...smh n/m - Linda_H/FL on 3/8/21 8:25pm
 Reported! n/m -  Amigoaz on 3/8/21 8:51pm
 Re: Your post in and of itself was racist -  JanetK_CA on 3/8/21 10:59pm
 Notaries may not discriminate -  Cheryl Elliott on 3/9/21 7:52am
 Why this entire thread should be deleted - Bear900/CA on 3/9/21 10:52am
 AGREE BEAR. This marks a very dark day for NR'rs -  Cheryl Elliott on 3/10/21 7:23am
 I agree with Carolyn...totally out of line n/m - Linda_H/FL on 3/8/21 7:45pm
 Re: I am white and I find your Privileged entitled white man -  OR on 3/10/21 10:59am
 Reported--so out of line--I'm shocked! ;-( n/m -  MW/VA on 3/8/21 9:05pm
 Girl at a party - Bear900/CA on 3/8/21 10:58pm
 hilarious! love the Girl at a party. so apropos n/m -  sigtogo/OR on 3/9/21 12:15pm
 Re: Privileged entitled white man tantrum - ID wrong + venting - MikeC/TX on 3/8/21 11:12pm
 Re: Privileged entitled white man tantrum - ID wrong + venting - Earl Jones on 3/9/21 12:45am
 Exactly! n/m - Luckydog on 3/9/21 8:42am
 Reported. Racism has no place in our membership, forum -  Cheryl Elliott on 3/9/21 7:33am
 Racism at it's finest. Cannot believe what I just read - Luckydog on 3/9/21 8:40am
 Sigh--a "privileged" notary who refuses to sign because of a -  MW/VA on 3/9/21 8:42am
 Worse yet - Luckydog on 3/9/21 8:56am
 I agree. She should be reported for this kind of conduct. n/m -  MW/VA on 3/9/21 10:23am
 Re: Yes, why? n/m - Carolyn Bodley on 3/9/21 10:33am
 Re: Should have posted below MW as to why NR hasn’t removed n/m - Carolyn Bodley on 3/9/21 10:34am
 Re: Privileged entitled white - Clem/CA on 3/9/21 9:34am
 Re: Privileged entitled white - Carolyn Bodley on 3/9/21 9:46am
 Hey NR--why hasn't this been removed???? n/m -  MW/VA on 3/9/21 10:25am
 In addition to the racist rant, she won't be getting much -  snowlover/PA on 3/9/21 10:46am
 Nobody actually answered Jen's question...the absent 'F' - Lee/AR on 3/9/21 10:48am
 There Was A Question? - PegiT_MN on 3/9/21 3:27pm
 Re: Nobody actually answered Jen - Clem/CA on 3/9/21 4:06pm
 Yes, And that was brilliant. :-) n/m - NVLSlady/VA on 3/9/21 4:21pm
 Finally, a comment that makes some sense! Thanks, Lee/AR! -  JanetK_CA on 3/9/21 4:20pm
 Personally, I Found OP's Post To Be Very Offensive . . . - PegiT_MN on 3/9/21 7:06pm



 
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