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Re: Trump in Ohio
Posted by MikeC/TX of TX on 8/15/19 7:01pm Msg #72774
"Socialism is Socialism no matter how you paint it or what you call it."

No, Rich, socialism is government control of the means of production. That's the definition of socialism. Again, please tell me the names of the Democrats who have said that our government should control the means of production.

Oh, wait - the Trump administration is bailing out the farmers they screwed with the Chinese tariffs... Isn't THAT an attempt to control the means of production? Farmers, no one will buy your crops, but keep growing them and your government will pay you for the money you lost. Socialism or a social program?

"Yup, and they are all failing. Social Security has reserves of about 10-15 years, and then will be running at a deficit, all the others are in the red right now."

So what are you saying - you'll reject the Social Security and Medicare benefits you currently receive? The point is not whether these programs are currently being funded properly - the point is that they exist and have existed for many years, and many people depend on them. That doesn't make those who depend on them socialists - it makes them people who benefit from social programs, just like the farmers who Trump screwed with his tariffs and is now bailing out with our tax money. And no, no matter how many times he says it, that money is not coming from the Chinese - it's coming from the American taxpayer.
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"And i will stop calling them socialists right after the libs stop playing the race card."

Oh. please - you can do better than deflecting like that. What has one thing have to do with the other??
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Messages in this Thread
 Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/2/19 7:32pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - HisHughness on 8/3/19 8:12pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - shooterclay on 8/5/19 7:54pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - HisHughness on 8/5/19 10:19pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/7/19 7:04pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - shooterclay on 8/7/19 10:14pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/9/19 5:46pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/8/19 8:00am
 Re: Trump in Ohio - HisHughness on 8/8/19 3:09pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/10/19 1:32pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/9/19 6:21pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - shooterclay on 8/7/19 10:11pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/8/19 8:02am
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/9/19 7:05pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/10/19 9:23am
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/15/19 7:01pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - bagger on 8/16/19 6:17pm
 Re: Trump in Ohio - MikeC/TX on 8/17/19 6:42pm



 
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