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Nobody should have the right to deny life once it starts...
Posted by CH2inCA of CA on 6/8/21 12:03pm Msg #78847
My best friend's religion does not allow blood transfusion, born with a heart defect that required open heart surgery, when he was in high school, his parents didn't allow for the blood transfusion. He died. It was their right to deny life.

I'm not a proponent for abortion (not really even the topic of this thread) but it's not a really a matter of right and wrong. It's nothing but a political matter. I say outlaw abortion, you'd take away the whole republican policy platform. It's their biggest argument, over, and over again.

I read this on social media...but it does make sense.

“Reasonable people can disagree about when a zygote becomes a ‘human life’ that’s the philosophical question. However, regardless of whether or not one believes a fetus is ethically equivalent to an adult, it doesn’t obligate a mother to sacrifice her body autonomy for another, innocent or not.
Body autonomy is a critical component of the right to privacy protected by the Constitution, as decided in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965), McFall v Shimp (1978), and of course Roe V Wade (1973). Consider a scenario where you are a perfect bone marrow match for a child with severe aplastic anemia; no other person on earth is a close enough match to save the child’s life, and the child will certainly die without a bone marrow transplant from you. If you decided that you did not want to donate your marrow to save the child, for whatever reason, the state cannot demand the use of any part of your body for something to which you do not consent. It doesn’t matter if the procedure required to complete the donation is trivial, or if the rationale for refusing the flimsy and arbitrary, or if the procedure is the only hope the child has to survive, or if the child is a genius or a saint or anything else-the decision to donate must be voluntary to be constitutional. This right is even extended to a person’s body after they die; if they did not voluntarily commit to donate their organs while alive, their organs cannot be harvested after death, regardless of how useless those organs are to the deceased or how many lives they would save. That’s the law. Use of the woman’s uterus to save a life is no different from use of her bone marrow to save a life-it must be offered voluntarily. By all means, profess your belief that providing one’s uterus to save the child is morally just, and refusing is morally wrong. That is a defensible philosophical position, regardless of who agrees and who disagrees. But legally, it must be the woman’s choice to carry out the pregnancy. She may choose to carry the baby to term. She may choose not to. Either decision could be made for all the right reasons, all the wrong reasons, or anything in between. But it must be her choice, and protecting the right of body autonomy means the law is on her side. Supporting that precedent is what pro-choice means.”


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Messages in this Thread
 Let us see who blinks - Bob_Chicago on 6/3/21 11:58am
 Re: Let us see who blinks - anotaryinva on 6/3/21 5:24pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Luckydog on 6/3/21 5:35pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks -  JanetK_CA on 6/3/21 10:07pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Luckydog on 6/4/21 10:23am
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Bob_Chicago on 6/5/21 2:31pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks....BINGO! - Linda_H/FL on 6/6/21 9:31am
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Luckydog on 6/7/21 12:47pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - MikeC/TX on 6/5/21 12:34am
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Carolyn Bodley on 6/4/21 9:26am
 Re: Let us see who blinks - MikeC/TX on 6/5/21 12:26am
 Abortion is about another life...... -  NJW/FL on 6/5/21 11:31am
 Re: Abortion is about another life...... - MikeC/TX on 6/7/21 5:51pm
 Re: Abortion is about another life...... - Luckydog on 6/7/21 7:10pm
 Nobody should have the right to deny life once it starts... - CH2inCA on 6/8/21 12:03pm
 Re: Nobody should have the right to deny life once it starts... - Luckydog on 6/8/21 8:22pm
 Nobody should have the right to decide what happens... -  JanetK_CA on 6/9/21 2:08am
 great explanation of the complexities of being pro-choice n/m - sigtogo/OR on 6/9/21 12:06pm
 Re: great explanation of the complexities of being pro-choice - bagger on 6/15/21 10:45am
 Re: great explanation of the complexities of being pro-choice - Luckydog on 6/15/21 3:17pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Luckydog on 6/5/21 2:25pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - MikeC/TX on 6/7/21 6:41pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Luckydog on 6/7/21 7:17pm
 Re: Let us see who blinks - Loren_Z on 6/10/21 9:03am



 
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