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Re: What is your break even fee?
Posted by  JanetK_CA of CA on 6/15/22 6:09pm Msg #640763
If an LSA secured a knowledgeable business mentor or hired an experienced business consultant, one of the first things they'd tell someone who presented the points listed above is that they need to change their thinking or go get a job working for someone else.

Just for starters, there are lots of other non-variable expenses exclusive to an LSA business that weren't factored in, such as maintenance, repair, and replacement of equipment. For example, the more miles you put on your car, the greater those costs will be and the sooner they will be needed. Same for printers, etc. Plus, you presumably have E&O insurance, annual BGCs, business cards, taxes, etc., etc.

Also, do you advertise and promote your business? If you're just sitting around when you don't have an appointment, maybe your time IS worthless. But what if you used that time productively to market yourself and try to generate new business?

Most importantly, to be a viable business, a reasonable profit MUST be factored in. If one's business activities are not producing a profit, then they don't have a viable business model. Period. Any worthwhile business consultant would tell you that if that's what's happening, it's time to pursue something else, not continue slowly going broke until it's obvious. Constantly lowering your profit margin per signing is a recipe for failure. [And if this is your sole source of income, we haven't even talked about covering your cost of living. That's a whole other issue for people who don't have another source of income that pays for food, housing, etc., etc., etc.]

Years ago, I think it was Marian Harmon who did a great comparison of doing X number of signings at one fee vs. doing Y number of signings at a higher fee. In both examples, the total gross revenue is the same, but the profit margin is significantly higher for the person who did fewer signings at a slightly higher fee. It was extremely eye-opening! I've tried to find that post in the past, but was unsuccessful. (I think I've posted about that myself, but I got the idea from her. Now I can't find either.) If anyone can find those posts, I think we're way overdue for that info to be posted or linked again...

As for what fee I would accept, I agree with the others that it varies greatly, depending on the circumstances. It will also differ from one person to the next.
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 How did you prepare to become a LSA? - Mobile1/PA on 6/14/22 8:07am
 There’s only one consensus opinion. This is a dying biz. - grapebed on 6/14/22 12:14pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? - aanotary on 6/14/22 2:15pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? -  ladyknc on 6/14/22 3:16pm
 Not only that... -  JanetK_CA on 6/14/22 4:30pm
 I totally agree, Janet. It is happening faster than I would - grapebed on 6/14/22 4:39pm
 Re: I totally agree, Janet. It is happening faster than I would -  JanetK_CA on 6/14/22 5:52pm
 None of you answered the question! n/m - Mobile1/PA on 6/14/22 6:38pm
 What is your break even fee? - Mobile1/PA on 6/14/22 6:49pm
 "My time is worthless", then that's exactly how much you - grapebed on 6/14/22 8:12pm
 Re: What is your break even fee? - Lee/AR on 6/15/22 11:15am
 Agree with Lee/AR. No one-fee-fits all. -  Yoli/CA on 6/15/22 12:20pm
 Re: What is your break even fee? -  JanetK_CA on 6/15/22 6:09pm
 Answer your own question then?? n/m - PaigeTurner on 6/16/22 7:06am
 Re: Answer your own question then?? - Mobile1/PA on 6/16/22 7:51am
 Wrong again... - PaigeTurner on 6/16/22 2:22pm
 PS...We are NSAs not LSAs. n/m - PaigeTurner on 6/16/22 2:24pm
 wow n/m - Mobile1/PA on 6/16/22 7:04pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? -  Expeditor on 6/15/22 12:10pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? - Mobile1/PA on 6/15/22 1:27pm
 something better'n nothing contributes to declining fees - Lee/AR on 6/15/22 1:39pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? -  Expeditor on 6/15/22 6:26pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? - Mobile1/PA on 6/15/22 7:00pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? -  Yoli/CA on 6/15/22 12:35pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? - Mobile1/PA on 6/15/22 1:38pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? -  Yoli/CA on 6/15/22 1:56pm
 Re: How did you prepare to become a LSA? - Mobile1/PA on 6/15/22 2:39pm
 Lifeguard jobs (both outdoor and indoor) pay $23 an hour - grapebed on 6/15/22 7:47pm
 5 years ago,if you were earning $100-$125 for an assigment, - grapebed on 6/15/22 1:53pm
 Ok. A fee of $125 for a standard refi is unacceptable to me. - grapebed on 6/16/22 10:55am
 Re: Ok. A fee of $125 for a standard refi is unacceptable to me. - ananotary on 6/17/22 7:02pm
 Part 1 - LSA v NSA -  BrendaTx on 6/18/22 11:53pm
 Re: Part 1 - LSA v NSA - Mobile1/PA on 6/20/22 2:39pm
 There is no debate here. I am sure of what I said. n/m -  BrendaTx on 6/20/22 3:01pm
 PART II - Figuring a Reasonable fee for You -  BrendaTx on 6/19/22 12:15am
 I hate not being able to correct a typo! -  BrendaTx on 6/19/22 12:17am
 Re: PART II - Figuring a Reasonable fee for You -  BrendaTx on 6/19/22 12:23am
 Great stuff, Brenda! [I've added this to Msg #630000] n/m -  JanetK_CA on 6/19/22 8:32pm
 Re: Great stuff, Brenda! [I -  BrendaTx on 6/19/22 9:16pm
 This is called a Budget - Mobile1/PA on 6/20/22 2:40pm
 Re: This is called a Budget -  BrendaTx on 6/20/22 2:59pm



 
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