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Re: Janet brings up interesting situation ...
Posted by  LKT/CA of CA on 2/28/15 2:26pm Msg #525598
<<<And there really is no point in using "your own certificates," because why would a notary in a state where there is no state-specific verbiage use "their certificate" over whatever gibberish is printed on the doc. What would "your own certificates" contain? The notary's idea of how an ack should read? So the notary is choosing verbiage over what's printed on the docs ... in a state where there is no required verbiage? None of this makes sense to me. I'd like to hear other notaries' views on this subject.>>>

If a notary's state has no specific cert wording but still requires that their cert includes specific elements, then *to me* it makes sense that the notary CAN create a cert he/she can use with docs when they come across an oddly worded cert. That's what *I* would do so that I would not have to question what a strangely worded cert *should* say, and risk getting that info incorrect, as simple as it may seem to others. Another state can request that their cert be used but cannot require it. Unless I got a written request to use another state's cert, I stick with CA.

The risk we take when completing another state's cert is whether that cert contains the elements required for *that* state. While it's not our responsibility to know the other 49 state's compliant cert wording, can a transaction be undone because a notary completed a cert that was non-compliant for the other state? Do we wish to take that risk?

If *I* were to create a cert that I would customarily use, it would definitely include a venue (state & county), date, notary name and title, and signer's name. The rest would include whatever elements my state required and be simple/short/sweet....a sentence or two about the person appearing before me, was identified and signed freely.....not anywhere close to the wordy CA ack. Most people/entities requiring notarization only care about the notary's signature and stamp. They really could care less what the cert statement actually says.

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 Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 3:02pm
 His/Her/Their? Whichever applies? n/m -  Linda_H/FL on 2/27/15 3:06pm
 Thanks for the quick reply & help Linda. n/m - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 3:15pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert -  Linda Juenger on 2/27/15 3:13pm
 Linda, would you like to expound on that?!! n/m - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 3:16pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - desktopfull on 2/27/15 7:04pm
 Either "their" (if two or more signers) ... - BearPaw/CO on 2/27/15 3:43pm
 Isn't it misspelled? me instead of be notary's name goes in n/m - Notarysigner on 2/27/15 4:06pm
 No, not misspelled... -  Linda_H/FL on 2/27/15 4:32pm
 Thanks BearPaw! n/m - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 5:19pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 4:06pm
 Good to know - CH2inCA on 2/27/15 4:27pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert -  Linda Juenger on 2/27/15 4:27pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 5:18pm
 I too appreciate the positive responses. Folks.......Karma ! n/m - in2wiin on 2/27/15 5:20pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert -  JanetK_CA on 2/27/15 5:22pm
 Thanks Janet! My thoughts exactly!! n/m - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 5:27pm
 Re: Thanks Janet! My thoughts exactly!! -  Cheryl Elliott on 2/27/15 9:17pm
 LOL Cheryl!! n/m - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 10:10pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - Carolyn Bodley on 2/28/15 10:39pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - Karla/OR on 3/1/15 12:38am
 Sounds like you only believe that you have the - desktopfull on 2/27/15 7:03pm
 WHAT?!! I was responding to the n/m - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 10:11pm
 Re: WHAT?!! I was responding to the - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 10:23pm
 Re: WHAT?!! I was responding to the - jba/fl on 2/27/15 10:58pm
 Re: WHAT?!! I was responding to the - Karla/OR on 2/27/15 11:38pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert - jba/fl on 2/27/15 7:10pm
 Re: Need Help with Verbiage on DEED Cert -  VT_Syrup on 2/27/15 7:37pm
 ALWAYS safe: when in doubt, use your own certificates n/m -  JanetK_CA on 2/27/15 11:20pm
 Janet brings up interesting situation ... - BearPaw/CO on 2/28/15 11:27am
 Re: Janet brings up interesting situation ... -  VT_Syrup on 2/28/15 11:34am
 Re: Janet brings up interesting situation ... -  LKT/CA on 2/28/15 2:26pm
 Re: Janet brings up interesting situation ... - BearPaw/CO on 2/28/15 5:12pm
 BearPaw, what do you do when only one signer appears -  Teresa/FL on 3/1/15 10:19am
 No - BearPaw/CO on 3/1/15 10:38am
 Re: No -  JanetK_CA on 3/1/15 1:09pm
 Exactly what I was thinking JanetK -  Teresa/FL on 3/1/15 4:43pm
 Absolutely, JanetK - BearPaw/CO on 3/1/15 5:23pm



 
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