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Re: The words “before me” are no longer sufficient
Posted by  VT_Syrup of VT on 1/23/20 7:34am Msg #614886
I got curious about this, so looked up the law. It may be found at

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=63304

Use the browser search function to find "Enrolled" and click on "Enrolled". This will download the bill, but the suffix of the file will be .aspx. It really should be .pdf. If using Windows, right-click the file name, choose "Open with", and open it with Adobe Reader.

On page 9 (of 78!) you will find

"(4) When notarizing a signature, a notary public shall 205 complete a jurat or notarial certificate in substantially the 206 same form as those found in subsection (13). The jurat or 207 certificate of acknowledgment shall contain the following 208 elements:

...

"(c) _Whether_ [struck out: That] the signer personally appeared before the 216 notary public at the time of the notarization by physical 217 presence or _by means of audio-video communication technology as 218 authorized under part II of this chapter._"

The subsection 13 that gives acceptable certificates, starting on page 14, begins

"(13) The following notarial certificates are sufficient 334 for the purposes indicated, if completed with the information 335 required by this chapter. The specification of forms under this 336 subsection does not preclude the use of other forms."

So it seems pretty clear that appearing physically or by audio-video communications are both considered appearing before the notary, so which method was used must be specified. It also seems pretty clear that the certificate wording can vary as long as the necessary information is contained somewhere in the certificate.

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Messages in this Thread
 Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat -  JerryhFL on 1/22/20 6:03pm
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat - Walt Ashley on 1/22/20 6:36pm
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat -  VT_Syrup on 1/22/20 7:49pm
 RON a no go in Massachusetts .... - BobbiCT on 1/23/20 6:20am
 Re: RON a no go in Massachusetts .... -  Cheryl Elliott on 1/26/20 11:25am
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat - Luckydog on 1/22/20 8:11pm
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat -  VT_Syrup on 1/22/20 8:15pm
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat - Luckydog on 1/22/20 8:35pm
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat -  VT_Syrup on 1/22/20 9:38pm
 The words “before me” are no longer sufficient - FlaNotary2 on 1/23/20 4:14am
 Re: The words “before me” are no longer sufficient -  VT_Syrup on 1/23/20 7:34am
 Exactly - you're right, VT - Linda_H/FL on 1/23/20 8:32am
 Re: Exactly - you - Luckydog on 1/25/20 11:51am
 F.S. 117.05 - statutory wording - Linda_H/FL on 1/25/20 6:01pm
 Easy fix but requires extra writing if you don't want to - Linda_H/FL on 1/22/20 8:21pm
 Re: Question About the New Required Florida ACK and Jurat -  JerryhFL on 1/23/20 8:07am



 
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