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Re: Federal representation for who?
Posted by MikeC/TX of TX on 3/30/18 6:54pm Msg #71602
Read Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3. It doesn't say "all legal citizens" or "all voters", it says "all Free Persons" (and generously adds 3/5 of a slave). Women could not vote. Children cannot vote. Indentured servants could not vote. Lord knows the slaves could not vote (or even be counted as a whole person). The Constitution calls for an enumeration of EVERYBODY. People who domicile in the district are supposed to be counted. What Congress does affects them, even if they're not citizens.

"If a specific district had a large festival which drew international attendees at the time the census arrived in the mail should we count legal visiting aliens in order to ensure that American citizens have proper representation in the House?"

Come on, Chris, you're better than this. If the census form is mailed to your home address, what are the chances you'll receive it while you're at a festival somewhere else? What are the chances that international festival attendees will receive a census form in the mail? This was the best argument you could come up with?

This question has not been on the decennial census form for 70 years; why do we need it now? Think this through - you're being asked on a form WITH YOUR ADDRESS ON IT whether or not you're a citizen. If you answer "no" to that question, you will most likely be vacuumed up in an ICE raid. These people may be here illegally, but they're not stupid.

The biggest concern is that including the questions about citizenship will cause some folks to refuse to participate in the census - and that means an undercount in some districts.

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Messages in this Thread
 2020 Census - ArtG/KS on 3/27/18 4:29pm
 I work for the CB right now as a Field Rep - Linda_H/FL on 3/27/18 4:41pm
 Re: I work for the CB right now as a Field Rep - MikeC/TX on 3/27/18 5:00pm
 Federal representation for who? - Moneyman/TX on 3/30/18 2:25pm
 Re: Federal representation for who? - MikeC/TX on 3/30/18 6:54pm
 Read the first 7 words of the US Constition (full context is - Moneyman/TX on 3/31/18 11:41am
 Re: Read the first 7 words of the US Constition (full context is - HisHughness on 3/31/18 3:21pm
 It is great to see you posting again Hugh... - Moneyman/TX on 4/13/18 9:05am
 Re: Read the first 7 words of the US Constition (full context is - MikeC/TX on 3/31/18 5:42pm
 Forget what I said above - MikeC/TX on 4/2/18 5:10pm
 Re: 2020 Census - MikeC/TX on 3/27/18 4:55pm
 Re: 2020 Census - ArtG/KS on 3/27/18 5:02pm
 Re: 2020 Census - MikeC/TX on 3/27/18 6:17pm
 Re: 2020 Census - MikeC/TX on 3/29/18 1:02am
 Re: 2020 Census - ArtG/KS on 3/27/18 5:05pm
 Re: 2020 Census - MikeC/TX on 3/27/18 6:23pm
 Re: 2020 Census - ArtG/KS on 3/27/18 4:57pm
 Re: 2020 Census - strict rules, ya' think~~ - Lee/AR on 3/28/18 12:05am



 
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