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Re: Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per
Posted by  JanetK_CA of CA on 4/11/23 4:59pm Msg #645118
I think you make a very valid point - and clearly the SOS office now agrees with you.

I've yet to run into any situations where I felt there may be a question, but if I do, Yoli's approach of just asking what pronouns they prefer to use, then documenting that in the journal, sounds like a good plan, too. I'd probably just not mark anything unless it was a split signing where I felt it was important to make it clear that only one party was personally appearing before me - especially when the provided cert has more than one name pre-printed and I'm leaving that for the next notary. (And if there's more than one person, I'd underline "they/them" anyway.)

If I run into someone who claims to be non-binary, prefers to use "they/them", and hands me an ID with a stated gender that doesn't appear to match, I'd bet they're likely to volunteer what pronouns they prefer. In that situation, it might be helpful to notate that in my journal, regardless of whether or not pronouns are specified in the certificate. That would be especially true if I'm only putting one name in that cert. I think just marking "they/them" on the cert could leave room for potential confusion.
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 Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 - Desiree Calolahan on 4/5/23 3:23pm
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 - VT_Syrup on 4/5/23 8:44pm
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 - VT_Syrup on 4/5/23 8:57pm
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  Expeditor on 4/7/23 1:09am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 - DaveCA/CA on 4/5/23 11:26pm
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  Cheryl Elliott on 4/6/23 7:23am
 Wrong form number, DS3053 not DS3503 - VT_Syrup on 4/6/23 7:30am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  Yoli/CA on 4/6/23 8:55am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 - Desiree Calolahan on 4/6/23 11:58am
 Did you read what Yoli took her valuable time to write? - Linda_H/FL on 4/6/23 1:10pm
 Re: Did you read what Yoli took her valuable time to write? - Desiree Calolahan on 4/6/23 5:29pm
 Re: Did you read what Yoli took her valuable time to write? - Clem/CA on 4/6/23 9:30pm
 Re: Did you read what Yoli took her valuable time to write? -  JanetK_CA on 4/7/23 3:10am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  Expeditor on 4/7/23 1:20am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  JanetK_CA on 4/7/23 3:16am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  Yoli/CA on 4/7/23 11:22am
 Re: Proof of Execution by Subscribing Witness for form DS3503 -  Expeditor on 4/7/23 2:54pm
 Thanks, Yoli! I stand corrected - should have READ the form! -  JanetK_CA on 4/7/23 4:23pm
 Re:New era! New gender translations! More diverse. n/m - HeatherR/CA on 4/7/23 9:27pm
 I have not crossed out any pronouns in my certs for - ananotary on 4/9/23 9:47pm
 Re: I have not crossed out any pronouns in my certs for -  Cheryl Elliott on 4/10/23 8:40am
 In our politically correct society of today, they don't dare - Linda_H/FL on 4/10/23 10:17am
 Re: I have not crossed out any pronouns in my certs for -  Yoli/CA on 4/10/23 12:09pm
 Re: I have not crossed out any pronouns in my certs for - ananotary on 4/10/23 12:27pm
 Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per - HeatherR/CA on 4/10/23 9:06pm
 Re: Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per -  Yoli/CA on 4/11/23 10:47am
 Re: Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per - ananotary on 4/11/23 11:41am
 Re: Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per -  JanetK_CA on 4/11/23 4:59pm
 Re: Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per - ananotary on 4/12/23 12:38pm
 Re: Re:Not crossed out any pronouns in certs for years as per -  JanetK_CA on 4/12/23 2:57pm
 Re: ana Had a neighbor whose son Frankie was a beautiful - HeatherR/CA on 4/12/23 12:30pm



 
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